tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post2939052245685023678..comments2023-11-02T07:04:32.085-05:00Comments on ...In A Handbasket: Colorado extending benefits to illegalsMiss T.C. Shorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12249243236643586983noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-79635439871574654162009-04-06T13:56:00.001-05:002009-04-06T13:56:00.001-05:00and btw, just because you don't agree with somethi...and btw, just because you don't agree with something doesn't make you stupid.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-9873257506589484162009-04-06T13:56:00.000-05:002009-04-06T13:56:00.000-05:00That's why analogies don't work. It's not an epic ...That's why analogies don't work. It's not an epic fail. Let me break it down for you. This land was stolen from the Natives; treaties broken how many times by the US government?<BR/><BR/>The Mexican people are related to those natives. <BR/><BR/>Moving on from that.<BR/><BR/>Something DOES need to be done about illegal immigration. Amnesty doesn't work. Rounding them up and sending them home doesn't work logistically either.<BR/><BR/>Obama has a pretty good plan. Illegals, you must pay a fine and get in line, the back of the line, to get your citizenship. If you don't, then when you come asking for help, we send you home.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-8066855773032483632009-04-05T15:37:00.000-05:002009-04-05T15:37:00.000-05:00No, it doesn't bring anything into perspective. T...No, it doesn't bring anything into perspective. That's just stupid.<BR/><BR/>Epic Fail.<BR/><BR/>Try again.Miss T.C. Shorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249243236643586983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-20653814802243242142009-04-05T00:17:00.000-05:002009-04-05T00:17:00.000-05:00Red: They are paying for their college. As in stat...Red: They are paying for their college. As in state residents. Because they have been here since childhood. No one is paying for it.<BR/><BR/>Point taken on the trespassing argument. <BR/><BR/>But as for the kids, it is the only crime that we have where we punish the children for their parents' crime.<BR/><BR/>If a child was brought here as a child, grew up American, think they are an American citizen, doesn't even speak Spanish, should they be sent "home" when they or the government realizes it?<BR/><BR/>Send them to Mexico or Guatemala, where they won't even know the language or culture and are American in all but name?<BR/><BR/>Furthering your trespassing analogy:<BR/><BR/>You are squatting on Mr. Smith's land, living there illegally in your tent. Mr. Smith comes over and starts trying to force you off his land. But then you realize, WAIT. He isn't really the owner of the land. Didn't he actually steal the land from Mr. Jones and put Mr Jones and his family in a tented area at the edge of the property? And when Mr. Smith is trying to evict you, it comes out that while you are actually <I>related</I> to Mr. Jones? And Mr. Jones would gladly let you stay if he weren't stuck in the reservation, er, tented area?<BR/><BR/>Brings it into perspective, don't it. You can't tell someone they are trespassing when its not your house to begin with.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-53477309603296241362009-04-04T22:52:00.000-05:002009-04-04T22:52:00.000-05:00Wolfman- your argument makes no sense. An illegal...Wolfman- your argument makes no sense. An illegal alien not only comes here illegally (thus breaking the law), but continually breaks the law by being here illegally. It is not the only law that someone can "perpetually" break. If I'm trespassing and stay on someone else's private property, I'm perpetually trespassing until I leave that property. If I'm speeding, I'm perpetually breaking the law as long as I continue to speed.<BR/><BR/>I don't care if "these are only kids". If they are here illegally, arrest them and send them back. The benefits and "kindness" we give illegal aliens is why they keep breaking the law by coming (and staying) here. Only harsher treatment will stop this flood across our borders.Miss T.C. Shorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12249243236643586983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-66322113998758033802009-04-04T17:57:00.000-05:002009-04-04T17:57:00.000-05:00James: Let these children of illegal immigrants pa...James: Let these children of illegal immigrants pay for their own college then unless you want to supplicate from your own pocket.<BR/><BR/>Dems are immune to words like "illegal" and "unconstitutional" because they think they are being mavericks by "sticking it to the man" only "the man" they are sticking it to is the average joe working class citizen.<BR/><BR/>Underhanded move by CO. Dems. Just shady. If CO is serious about stopping this then they need to threaten to oust the governor like they did here with Jindal when he hedged on vetoing triple pay raises for the La. House and Senate. People need to speak up if they don't like it but moreso they need to take action. That speaks louder than bitching about it.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00995981511802074871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4637415895963152447.post-9418950701576032302009-04-04T13:14:00.000-05:002009-04-04T13:14:00.000-05:00Here's why many of us have problems with the label...Here's why many of us have problems with the label "illegal alien":<BR/><BR/>What you said <I>who by their very definition are breaking the law...</I><BR/><BR/>Its the only law in our history that makes someone perpetually breaking the law.<BR/><BR/>We should prosecute them for the act of <I>coming</I> here illegally. Not for being here. Give them a fine and tell them to get in line for citizenship or get out.<BR/><BR/>Now on to your post.<BR/><BR/>These are kids! We don't normally prosecute kids for the crimes of their parents. These kids didn't break the law. They were <I>brought</I> here. Because they were minors. They had no choice. They should be given citizenship status, not deported. Many of them don't even speak Spanish, and have lived here as long as you have. They are as American as you or I, and the only reason they are being scrutinized is because of a decision and crime their parents made. Let them go to college if they work on getting their citizenship.James' Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575769532441311670noreply@blogger.com